"If God creates hell and if Jesus is God, then Jesus creates..."

[jwawrejko]

Originally Posted by phjuicy

That's why I'm saying there is no God. If there were, why would children die horrible deaths, and innocent people, church going people have horrible things happen to them?? Someone just got shot IN A CHURCH the other day, and died.

Karma originally came from Indian beliefs,that if you were good in this life, you would come back as something good in the next life. They don't eat meat, kill animals etc, because they believe that could be someone from a former life.

My belief is, Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. "The Golden Rule." If you wrong someone, the same will happen to you. Maybe not in that same manner, but you will pay, in this one and only life. :)P

So the Karma that you believe is that if when good people in this life die, they will be rewarded in some way, either in this life or perhaps another? So bad people will be punished in this life or not be allowed to enter into the next, right? If they enter into the next life that means that this cycle of evil will remain forever. If they are rejected, then eventually only good people will remain. This sounds like it would make a good movie. I'm phoning in the rights as we speak.

[$formyFamily]

Originally Posted by jwil2008

Pity you on Judgement Day!!

There will be no day of judgement, that's pure propaganda and not biblical as it is used to maipulate ppl into fear. For our Creator did not give us a spirit of fear, but one of faith, strength, and sound mind.

Originally Posted by phjuicy

That's why I'm saying there is no God. If there were, why would children die horrible deaths, and innocent people, church going people have horrible things happen to them?? Someone just got shot IN A CHURCH the other day, and died.

Karma originally came from Indian beliefs,that if you were good in this life, you would come back as something good in the next life. They don't eat meat, kill animals etc, because they believe that could be someone from a former life.

My belief is, Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. "The Golden Rule." If you wrong someone, the same will happen to you. Maybe not in that same manner, but you will pay, in this one and only life. :)P

Sweetie, the concept of Karma predates the Indians. Karma can be found as far back many eastern based religions found in the days before Christ.

[phjuicy]

Originally Posted by $formyFamily

There will be no day of judgement, that's pure propaganda and not biblical as it is used to maipulate ppl into fear. For our Creator did not give us a spirit of fear, but one of faith, strength, and sound mind.

Sweetie, the concept of Karma predates the Indians. Karma can be found as far back many eastern based religions found in the days before Christ.

I'm speaking of Eastern Indians, otherwise I would have said American Indians. :)P


ps before whom??

[jwawrejko]

Originally Posted by phjuicy

I'm speaking of Eastern Indians, otherwise I would have said American Indians. :)P

Yeah, I googled it and the eastern indians own the play rights to the karma belief that you mentioned.

[phjuicy]

Originally Posted by jwawrejko

Yeah, I googled it and the eastern indians own the play rights to the karma belief that you mentioned.

LOL,

[armywife422]

Phjuicy, is My Name is Earl your favorite show? LOL! I couldn't resist. I like that show. I think we all need to strive to live a good life regardless of our beliefs and righting our wrongs. Karma can be a biblical concept in the "reap what you sow" kind of way.

[$formyFamily]

Originally Posted by phjuicy

That's why I'm saying there is no God. If there were, why would children die horrible deaths, and innocent people, church going people have horrible things happen to them?? Someone just got shot IN A CHURCH the other day, and died.


My belief is, Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. "The Golden Rule." If you wrong someone, the same will happen to you. Maybe not in that same manner, but you will pay, in this one and only life. :)P

Your first paragraph is why I do not believe in a Christian personified "God". I feel they're "God" is a very brutal god. However I do believe in a supreme Creator, however my beliefs in this energy are not bound to a gender, nor are they personified. I feel that when one begins creating their god in the form of a human their god becomes susceptible to the flaws of humans.

[phjuicy]

Originally Posted by armywife422

Phjuicy, is My Name is Earl your favorite show? LOL! I couldn't resist. I like that show. I think we all need to strive to live a good life regardless of our beliefs and righting our wrongs. Karma can be a biblical concept in the "reap what you sow" kind of way.

OK, UHHH, I don't know if you're trying to insult me because I haven't seen that show, and haven't heard of it. So, my answer would be no.

I totally agree with "I think we all need to strive to live a good life regardless of our beliefs and righting our wrongs. Karma can be a biblical concept in the "reap what you sow" kind of way."

I'm not a bad person because I don't believe in Christianity. What if I were Hindu, (kings of karma, lol)?? Would you tell me I'm going to hell ( jwil2008) ?? What happens to them on Judgement day??

I'm off for today, so lots of love and luck to all!! That's what I believe in :)P

[jwawrejko]

Originally Posted by $formyFamily

Your first paragraph is why I do not believe in a Christian personified "God". I feel they're "God" is a very brutal god. However I do believe in a supreme Creator, however my beliefs in this energy are not bound to a gender, nor are they personified. I feel that when one begins creating their god in the form of a human their god becomes susceptible to the flaws of humans.

Yes, but is your supreme Creator God going to do anything about wickedness, or just sit pretty?

And people don't create their God into a human form, but rather God explains himself as having human characteristics so we can understand Him better.

[armywife422]

Originally Posted by phjuicy

OK, UHHH, I don't know if you're trying to insult me because I haven't seen that show, and haven't heard of it. So, my answer would be no.

I totally agree with "I think we all need to strive to live a good life regardless of our beliefs and righting our wrongs. Karma can be a biblical concept in the "reap what you sow" kind of way."

I'm not a bad person because I don't believe in Christianity. What if I were Hindu, (kings of karma, lol)?? Would you tell me I'm going to hell ( jwil2008) ?? What happens to them on Judgement day??

I'm off for today, so lots of love and luck to all!! That's what I believe in :)P

Nope not an insult at all. That show is based on Karma. It's on NBC Thursday nights. Would have seemed you would like the show. That's all my friend.