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[MovinForward]

Hi all. I am posting this here with the permission of Gladiator:

I have had numerous of my refs come back at me wondering when they are getting paid because "I've gone green for you." I can only believe that they simply do not understand the very big difference in "going green" and "getting approval". It works like this:

For an example: I have a site that "I'm working on" and this site requires that I get 12 people to go "green". This means that not only do I need to get these 12 people to all sign up, but I have to get them to complete enough offers to where they have satisfied the requirements of the main site. When those offers actually credit to the site (getting a confirmation letter is not equal to "crediting") and the full 1 credit requirement is met, that is "green".

Most site requirements are usually 1 full credit". Now, it may take a week to get the site to that point, as we are dealing with 12 different people and their schedules, it takes time and not everybody lives on the forum. So, finally, I get all 12 people green. If your trade agreement is that you get paid on green, then you would advise your trade partner that your green and payment should promptly be made to your paypal account. However, if your trade agreement is to be paid "on approval" then that is different.

Approval is when the buyer trader gathers the entire trade together and "sends it in for approval". Approval is a process where the site owners/support help, checks all 12 of the greens for fraud, violations of terms of service and other things. EVERYONE must go through approval, both those being paid on green and those being paid on approval. The buyer trader will get a report back from the main site that will tell him/her who stayed green and who went red (if any). Going red means that the referral has violated a part of the freesite's terms and conditions and you will not receive credit for referring them.

If you go RED you will be REQUIRED to issue a full REFUND to your trade partner if you were paid on green. The only thing that matters in the freebie world is the green. If you don't stay green, no one gets credit for you. The site owner loses your referral, your trade partner loses your green, you in turn lose the money that you paid for the offers and you must now issue a refund to your partner if he/she paid you for your green. That is the key - you were paid for your green to stay green. You were not paid for your green to go red. The reason that you went red has absolutly nothing to do with your trade partner and you must take up your case with the site owner. Do not punish your trade partner by not issuing an immediate refund. I say it again, RED is not the fault of your trade partner, it's completely on you. Your trade partner may choose to help you regain your green, but it is not his or her responsibility to do so.

I would caution anyone who is considering getting paid "only on green" as many, many scammers use that pitch in their title of their trade ad to rope in the unsuspecting newbie trader. Although there are many, many (myself included) good and honest traders that do pay on green, make sure you check them out first. Look at the date they joined the forum, check their iTrader score and their feedback. Do not accept any trade, whether it's paid on green or on approval, without first checking their profile. NEWBIES should not trade with other NEWBIES.

I hope that this has helped knock down some of the confusion. And although everybody should have, but not everybody has read the very excellent tutorial written by Gladiator, you can find it here: http://www.freelunchroom.com/board/showthread.php?t=107662

[Gladiator]

Great explanation. I edited it for spelling and better clarification on "going red".


In simpler terms:

In order to go green for someone, all you need to do is complete your offer requirements after you've signed up under their referral link. You DO NOT need to complete the referral requirements.

[MovinForward]

Thanks.

[MystereHoward]

thanks for posting that in this forum i put somethinglike it in the nb forums but allot of ppl don't look there first

[Belle5187]

Thanks a bunch! That cleared a lot up for me. I sent you a PM :D

[neilmoyer]

I'm trying to compile a list of free sites and how easy or hard they are to use.
I am also working on a similar list of offers and how well they live up to thier end of the bargin by crediting and customer service.


Please view the post I have in the Discussion Forum and speak your mind and tell us what you think.

[kylelleonard]

Very good description. I have gotten a few people ask me for payment on a "pay on approval" deal. I will send them to this thread from now on.

Thanks!

[okie]

When I see "pay on approval", in my mind it is approval per credit per person that you are dealing with not the total # of credits that the trader is working towards.

you would think that they would have the approvals automated to where the user can submit approvals in thier b/o and the report would be ready the next day.

so approvals have to be done in blocks pertaining to the prize that the trader is working towards. so some of the work that I have done this weekend, I may not get paid until next weekend or longer. Hmm... sounds like there needs to be some stipulations for the term "pay on approval" or there could be people waiting several weeks or more before they get paid. Thats if I'm understanding this correctly. HMO

[goldengoddess]

sounds a little unfair to the 'employee' in the situation, but i can understand why a person wouldn't want to pay until they knew for sure they had their 'product/service' in full. I guess its kinda an ettiquette question. How long is fair to have to wait for payment once your services have been rendered? Agreeing to terms up front IS very important, but just because you are upfront with someone who is new to the game and may not understand, doesn't necessarily equate to fair. Any thoughts from the moderators about appropriate waiting periods?

[bidenni]

Some sites pay only on Fridays once approved. Some are daily. It depends on the site. I can sympathize with people wanting payment on green, as I'm sure everyone here started on the same level--greening for others. However, paying on approval is a safty net for those who are requesting greens. On the site that I have been working, I had all my required referrals and submitted for approval. A couple of hours later, I go back to the site and my request had been denied because a referral went red because he had multiple accounts. I paid this person, as I did all my referrals, on green. I have to wonder what are my chances of getting that $$$ back. I guess the trust factor goes both ways.