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Old 07-04-2009, 02:25 PM   #11
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Re: Trainn is blacklisted, so...

I know we're not going to get into a debate of who around here knows what they're doing more than the next person... Right?

The point is Trainn was a huge target for scammers and, yes, hurting a lot of newer method 2 traders who didn't know any better because they were corrupted into thinking from day one that everybody should be using "one offer sites." I never got hit by scammers either, but why should I ignore the fact that other less experienced traders were? Not to mention the fact that the problem of almost every new referral thinking every site should be a "one offer" site was only increasing and becoming a bigger pain? If you "know" how to really trade and how to make yourself valuable to a referral without having to just issue a huge payout on a one offer site, then you won't ever need trainn...
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Old 07-04-2009, 02:29 PM   #12
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Re: Trainn is blacklisted, so...

Need vs want....a typical human nature thing...and what should also not be for debate is folks' right to enjoy some networks more than others, whether or not to offer up a trainn to a new person (which literally makes me shudder at the thought but to each their own!), or whether or not someone wants to enjoy their wants just as much as their needs, eh?

Just a passing thought...it's all good, if'n we let it be.....
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Old 07-04-2009, 02:32 PM   #13
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Re: Trainn is blacklisted, so...

LOL I agree and shudder as well.
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Re: Trainn is blacklisted, so...

I would have to agree Monksmom. This is a wonderfully diverse community and we all have preferences and personally, I have never had any of my trade partners get scammed on Trainn either; as if they do the site, I am always sure to warn them of potential scammers. I like being able to offer an a one offer site so my trade partners enjoy a bit more cash in their Paypal. That's just my preference and option. No, it's not a debate; but everyone's opinion should be respected. I have a 543 TR on another forum and have certainly put my share of Method 2 traders out there that I never do abandon. To me it's a just a matter of a bit more training to protect them. I can tell you from this experience, that once they learn scammers exist; they are extremely cautious and ask my opinon before approving trades on non-trainn sites. Again, not a debate; a preference and the wonderful diversity of this great world we live in.
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Re: Trainn is blacklisted, so...

Okay, my bad.
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Old 07-04-2009, 02:42 PM   #16
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Re: Trainn is blacklisted, so...

I probably should rephrase a little and mention that I too have found good reasons to use Trainn but my main issue is all those other people who just push them on new traders right off the bat without taking the time to educate them on what to be careful about. Trainn is great for after a referral has done a few bigger sites and is running low on offers, because then you can say "Hey, do you want to do a really easy one offer site for X amount of dollars?" ..and they almost always say "Sure!" That's the best way, in my own opinion, to use Trainn and it also will avoid making that referral think every single site should be a one offer site. It's just that too many people used them in the wrong way and for the wrong reasons (when taking into account the things I outlined previously as being important).
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Re: Trainn is blacklisted, so...

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I probably should rephrase a little and mention that I too have found good reasons to use Trainn but my main issue is all those other people who just push them on new traders right off the bat without taking the time to educate them on what to be careful about. Trainn is great for after a referral has done a few bigger sites and is running low on offers, because then you can say "Hey, do you want to do a really easy one offer site for X amount of dollars?" ..and they almost always say "Sure!" That's the best way, in my own opinion, to use Trainn and it also will avoid making that referral think every single site should be a one offer site. It's just that too many people used them in the wrong way and for the wrong reasons (when taking into account the things I outlined previously as being important).
And hence we have come full circle to a meeting of the minds on agreement. Yes, and they are great sites for Canadians as well. Sometimes they have a hard time finding offers and Trainn fits that bill perfectly. Yes, education is the key. And yes, a trader should be trained in Method 1 to know that they only need a few one offer sites and must progress to one credit sites and up to gain the proper experience to be able to help other traders when they graduate and transist to Method 2.

Thanks for the clarification!!!
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Don't you just love it?????????????!!!!!!!!!! Thanks, folks....great job all around:)
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I probably should rephrase a little and mention that I too have found good reasons to use Trainn but my main issue is all those other people who just push them on new traders right off the bat without taking the time to educate them on what to be careful about. Trainn is great for after a referral has done a few bigger sites and is running low on offers, because then you can say "Hey, do you want to do a really easy one offer site for X amount of dollars?" ..and they almost always say "Sure!" That's the best way, in my own opinion, to use Trainn and it also will avoid making that referral think every single site should be a one offer site. It's just that too many people used them in the wrong way and for the wrong reasons (when taking into account the things I outlined previously as being important).
I think I agree with your statements here. I think (and this is my opinion) that Trainn is a very solid site.

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I would have to agree Monksmom. This is a wonderfully diverse community and we all have preferences and personally, I have never had any of my trade partners get scammed on Trainn either; as if they do the site, I am always sure to warn them of potential scammers. I like being able to offer an a one offer site so my trade partners enjoy a bit more cash in their Paypal. That's just my preference and option. No, it's not a debate; but everyone's opinion should be respected. I have a 543 TR on another forum and have certainly put my share of Method 2 traders out there that I never do abandon. To me it's a just a matter of a bit more training to protect them. I can tell you from this experience, that once they learn scammers exist; they are extremely cautious and ask my opinon before approving trades on non-trainn sites. Again, not a debate; a preference and the wonderful diversity of this great world we live in.
I do agree, scammers are everywhere, not just trainn. Potential scammers will go to any other network and it has always been that way. You just have to know who you send to do your Trainn sites, talking about that i just received another $400 from trainn with 0 holds. I don't send complete newbies, they start with other sites and then I offer them trainn and they agree to happily since its a very easy 1 offer site. I also advise new members about scammers, because freebies are not just wonderful, there will be bad apples trying to ruin it.
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