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Old 07-08-2007, 02:00 PM   #11
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As a newbee it's becoming clear how these scammers work. Thank's for the post.
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Old 07-08-2007, 02:07 PM   #12
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This is a great Thread. Well writen and great information!

This needs to be a sticky!

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Old 07-08-2007, 02:22 PM   #13
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Thanks for this thread it was definitely needed just take a look at the lunch theft forum lately!!!!!

And also thanks for your disclaimer!!! Some people always have something to say no matter what you do!!!

Now I had someone approach me with one of these scams saying that site I was seeking referrals for someone else had offered them $40 while I was only offering $20 on green. I told them that they should get with that trader then. They told me that the person had gone to sleep and they would go ahead and do it for me. So I sent them the link in a pm(trade manager was down at the time) and they said they would get right on it. They came back and said they had greened yet they hadn't even signed up!!!! So I asked them what site did they green on because they weren't under me. And I have yet to get a response!!!!

So I'll close by saying scamming is very real in this biz and at one point or another we will all be exposed to it so why not read this thread and keep a open mind? If this doesn't pertain to you then great!! But if it does beware we are spreading the word and will weed you out eventually!!

Thanks again for the post. This is invaluable info!!!
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Old 07-08-2007, 02:27 PM   #14
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Marbleeye, I know several reputable traders that have been around a long time that pay under what some ppl "recommend". So for you to consider it a scam is appauling.
It doesn't say that if you pay under a certain amount for your green you are scamming. If you knowingly deceive another user by underpaying to me that is a scam. I have another post referenced within this post that will show you the going average pay range for a referral. Check that out if you want.
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Also, I ended off by saying a scam is only a scam if the terms of trade are broken. I would not encourage someone to do the "multi-site" thing but if they agree to do it, they agree. And no it is not a scam. If they only go green on three and not five sites then they themselves have broken the terms of agreement.
If they go green on three sites you should pay them for the greens on three sites. I have had a couple of new members come to me and explain this type of trade to me and how they weren't paid on the sites that they did go green on. Now mind you if trade terms state that they will only be paid upon completion of all sites and the referral agreed upon those terms then it is a grey area and if there is a dispute it would have to be settled by a mod.. I still believe a referral should be paid for the sites that they did go green on.
I offer a multi site green bonus. What I do is setup each site as a different trade. Once the first trades are complete and green I pay them. The bonus I pay is added on to the last green payment that I pay them.

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Lastly, on a good note, I appreciate the post. It is refreshing. I too dont want anyone to be scammed. I just dont think those 2 should be up there.
This post is to be used as referrence I did not blindly type up this post and post it. I had several veteren traders proof read and offer critique to this before it was posted. The 2 scenarios that you and I are debating have been used as scams. That is why they are on this list.
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I dont think they (those 2) are scams. Cant and dont wish to say much more on the matter. End of story.
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I offer a multi site green bonus. What I do is setup each site as a different trade. Once the first trades are complete and green I pay them. The bonus I pay is added on to the last green payment that I pay them.

This is exactly how I do it too. If they green, they get paid for that site. If they cannot green on the next site, no pay, no bonus. Plain and simple!
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I agree with, this should be a sticky. The amount of safety net information here is great, not just for the NB, but the early on trader that may not have been scammed yet, but it's definitely a possibility. Thanks! Great Post...
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Also, I ended off by saying a scam is only a scam if the terms of trade are broken. I would not encourage someone to do the "multi-site" thing but if they agree to do it, they agree. And no it is not a scam. If they only go green on three and not five sites then they themselves have broken the terms of agreement.
As far as im concerned, A trader who sets up a multi site trade and then the other trader can't finish one site, and the other trader doesn't pay, thats a scam. What else you like to call it?

What if the offers don't credit, they run out of offers to do, becuase of the reason before? Why should they not be paid for the work that they did do?
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scams

Gee I am sure glad I didn't sign up on the offers I got in Aim for multiple sites! I can't imagine thinking you are justified in not paying for the ones that do get finished!
If you go out to eat and you can't finish your meal, do you only pay for part of it?
At the very least this stuff is taking unfair advantage of people who haven't had enough exposure-I've been here a while and I don't know the going rates for every site either, especially because there are so many new ones and ones that sound similar!
I don't care what anyone chooses to call it or chooses to pay either; but please do not tell me that's playing fair. I can only hope that the ones who pounce on newbies just to trick them get the same kind of treatment sometime when they need a hand. In the end you're only cutting off the hand that feeds you!
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